Julie Bishop’s third-hand knowledge of English teaching
Revised and reorganised 9 October. Now with a small anthology of Aus poetry!
Rather than read the reports I went straight to the guru herself.
The serious question needs to be asked whether it is time for a common model curriculum across the country. I think this is a debate that we must have. Let’s open the lid on what is being taught in our schools, and how, and have a debate on what could be taught and why.
Parents are right to be concerned with courses of study that would have students deconstructing that trashy reality show Big Brother, rather than learning the classics of Australian literature like Banjo Paterson, or Shakespeare. Contemplating a movie poster rather than analysing Patrick White?
And students should not be forced to interpret Shakespeare from a feminist or Marxist perspective. They should bring their own interpretations and values to these works of literature. History and geography classes should not be allowed to slide into political science courses by another name.
I wonder what she means by “analysing Patrick White”? Could that include wondering in what ways his homosexuality affected his life and work, or why he came to detest Malcolm Fraser’s Liberal government quite so much? Perhaps the movie poster is safer. But then it would be too much for Julie to contemplate that visual literacy is quite a serious pursuit. There is so much ignorance in these few lines that I don’t know where to begin. Obviously Julie hasn’t read any literary criticism for the past forty years, if indeed she ever has. She just has no idea at all what English Studies actually is, and how it is practised throughout the English-speaking world.
She is naive too. In 1959 we were presented with a Marxist interpretation of Wuthering Heights in a standard history of the English novel by one Arnold Kettle. Except we weren’t told it was Marxist. Is that better? It entered the “conversation” through which we worked out our (ahem!) **own** interpretation of Wuthering Heights.
Look, I happen to love Banjo Paterson, who is apparently a classic of Australian literature along with Bill “Wombat” Shakespeare, but he’s actually a rather second-rate poet, I’m afraid.
And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
And at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars.
That is as vague a set of images, as clunky a rhythm, and as automatic a rhyme as any minor poet of the 19th century ever produced. But his work is fun and has its place, and I have always taught it. Interesting that she does not cite Henry Lawson or Mary Gilmore, even though Mary Gilmore is arguably a better poet than either Paterson or Lawson, and Lawson deeper than Paterson, though he wrote some awful poems too. Paterson was an interesting war correspondent and a powerful myth-maker. Possibly the best Australian poet before Slessor (who totally rubbished those lines from “Clancy of the Overflow” I recall — wouldn’t “glorious wonder” do just as well as “wond’rous glory”?) was John Shaw Neilson. Brennan has his moments, but does not appeal to me greatly. (Yes, I studied Aus Lit.) You will find a few samples over the fold below.
Paterson was at least a better poet than Scotland’s William McGonagall, allegedly the world’s worst poet, whose work I have also taught on occasion.
‘Twas in the year of 1866, and on a very beautiful day,
That eighty-two passengers, with spirits light and gay,
Left Gravesend harbour, and sailed gaily away
On board the steamship “London,”
Bound for the city of Melbourne,
Which unfortunately was her last run,
Because she was wrecked on the stormy main,
Which has caused many a heart to throb with pain,
Because they will ne’er look upon their lost ones again.
Wuthering Heights, to come back to the subversive English lessons of 1959, has of course been read in wildly different ways by many people ever since its publication in 1847. It was thought wild and immoral by the Julies of the 1840s and 50s, and would have never been found in any respectable classroom, let alone a respectable home. To many it was, indeed, trashy. Now it is a Great Classic. What is wrong with tracing the different ways the book has been read through the years, preferably with actual examples of criticism? What is wrong with working out WHY those readings take the direction they do, which has to do with the values and beliefs of readers, surely, and ought to be part of the way advanced senior English students form their own views of the work, assuming of course they read the work itself several times? Isn’t that properly called “education”?
That’s my real complaint about senior English right now. There isn’t time to do it properly, but it sure is worth doing, and it has nothing to do with being “forced to interpret Shakespeare from a feminist or Marxist perspective”. What it is about is seeing from what perspectives particular readings of Shakespeare (or Wuthering Heights) have emerged; in fact students are being to asked to enter a community of discourse that has been going on since long before they were born, but which they need to know their way around if they are to be truly educated readers of literature and criticism. Do visit HSC Online: Introduction to Module B: Critical Study of Texts: “Students who choose the Shakespeare play explore its literary qualities and the ways in which different readings are possible and imply different values that may be realised through different productions… Students [who] choose [prose fiction] explore its literary qualities and different readings of the text, and reflect on the values implied by these readings… Students [who] choose [film or drama] explore the ways in which [their text] represents ideas. Students explore the distinctive qualities of the text and the ways in which values may be realised through production… Students [who] choose one of the following poets for study… explore the distinctive qualities of each poem in the prescribed selection, the ways these poems reflect the poet’s concerns and literary style and the values implied in different readings of the poetry…” This is bad? At least one Shakespeare play must be studied somewhere in the course.
Related
- Canons to the right, canons to the left…
- Wuthering Heights
- Penguin Classics: Wuthering Heights for much more detail on Leaving Certificate English 1959. “Dumbed down? Pull the other one! In fact I think my student has to work much harder than we did in 1959. I hope she ends up being as glad to have studied Wuthering Heights as I have been.” I am happy to report she loves the book still six months on; having to read feminist, psychoanalytic, Christian and Marxist critiques of the novel has made her more, not less, enthusiastic about Emily Bronte! The prefaces to that edition are also good models of current practice in English Studies; to enable my student to benefit from them was surely one of my tasks as an English teacher. Died-in-the-wool conservatives will be pleased to know that readings from the 1611 version of the Bible were part of our study too, helping the student (of Chinese background) pick up allusions and also helping her recognise the biblical style.
A tiny anthology of Australian verse
Australian Bards And Bush Reviewers
Henry Lawson (The poem is part of a legendary public stoush between Lawson and others, particularly Paterson. See also Poem: Borderland by Henry Lawson)
While you use your best endeavour to immortalise in verse
The gambling and the drink which are your country’s greatest curse,
While you glorify the bully and take the spieler’s part –
You’re a clever southern writer, scarce inferior to Bret Harte.If you sing of waving grasses when the plains are dry as bricks,
And discover shining rivers where there’s only mud and sticks;
If you picture ‘mighty forests’ where the mulga spoils the view –
You’re superior to Kendall, and ahead of Gordon too.If you swear there’s not a country like the land that gave you birth,
And its sons are just the noblest and most glorious chaps on earth;
If in every girl a Venus your poetic eye discerns,
You are gracefully referred to as the ‘young Australian Burns’.But if you should find that bushmen — spite of all the poets say –
Are just common brother-sinners, and you’re quite as good as they –
You’re a drunkard, and a liar, and a cynic, and a sneak,
Your grammar’s simply awful and your intellect is weak.Nationality
Mary Gilmore
I have grown past hate and bitterness,
I see the world as one;
But though I can no longer hate,
My son is still my son.All men at God’s round table sit,
and all men must be fed;
But this loaf in my hand,
This loaf is my son’s bread.The Poor, Poor Country
John Shaw Neilson
Oh ’twas a poor country, in Autumn it was bare,
The only green was the cutting grass and the sheep found little there.
Oh, the thin wheat and the brown oats were never two foot high,
But down in the poor country no pauper was I.My wealth it was the glow that lives forever in the young,
‘Twas on the brown water, in the green leaves it hung.
The blue cranes fed their young all day – how far in a tall tree!
And the poor, poor country made no pauper of me.I waded out to the swan’s nest – at night I heard them sing,
I stood amazed at the Pelican, and crowned him for a king;
I saw the black duck in the reeds, and the spoonbill on the sky,
And in that poor country no pauper was I.The mountain-ducks down in the dark made many a hollow sound,
I saw in sleep the Bunyip creep from the waters underground.
I found the plovers’ island home, and they fought right valiantly,
Poor was the country, but it made no pauper of me.My riches all went into dreams that never yet came home,
They touched upon the wild cherries and the slabs of honeycomb,
They were not of the desolate brood that men can sell or buy,
Down in that poor country no pauper was I.* * * * *
The New Year came with heat and thirst and the little lakes were low,
The blue cranes were my nearest friends and I mourned to see them go;
I watched their wings so long until I only saw the sky,
Down in that poor country no pauper was I.






I have edited out irrelevant material from this comment. Sorry. — ninglun
Curriculum needs to be flexible in order to serve the best interests of students, it’s that simple.
Indeed–that is the point of an outcomes-based approach, as anyone who examines it closely can appreciate.
It’s sad, then, that the “I don’t understand this approach to education: therefore it’s wrong” mentality is so pervasive in current debates on education.
I have edited out irrelevant material from this comment. Sorry. — ninglun
Indeed–that is the point of an outcomes-based approach, as anyone who examines it closely can appreciate.
It’s sad, then, that the “I don’t understand this approach to education: therefore it’s wrong” mentality is so pervasive in current debates on education.
Couldn’t agree more.
I am always amused by the current characterisation of “outcomes-based education” as some kind of wet leftie conspiracy. When it first came in (late in the 80s??) it was seen as an evil bureaucratic economic-rationalist right-wing plot! Really! I even thought that myself for a while.
Dear me, a few comments rather stray off the theme of this post! I have now edited out the irrelevant bits in what threatened to become a flame war, which I do not want here. I might add that I do not really agree either with the comment by Daniel that started it, but decided to pass on that one. Although I have done a bit of writing and editing, I certainly have not been in the running for the Booker Prize or the Miles Franklin Award. I also know of teachers of creative writing who are themselves very fine writers, and I know of good writers who could not teach to save their lives. I know good teachers of creative writing whose own talents are not great, but who have an interest and knowledge, obviously, and the ability to bring the best out in others.
When it first came in (late in the 80s??) it was seen as an evil bureaucratic economic-rationalist right-wing plot! Really! I even thought that myself for a while.
My understanding is that it was introduced in the early-mid 90s on a national level (under the co-operation of mostly state Liberal Governments – not a federation of curriculum), but entered the academic circles a lot earlier.
Also funny that allegations of elitism have been flung at the architects, considering the cultural inclusivity (but not necessarily relativism) of outcomes based curriculum frameworks. Rhetoric and silliness abound when hegemony is at stake.
I reckon I had a blog about this recently. The “Paul Kelly one”… I think…
Neil, just by accident I revisited this article. I really do need to write some of the history I was talking about, at least in broad sweeps. The concept of outcomes comes out of the the quality movement transmitted into Australia via the training reform agenda and linked into competencies, with an override from the New Zealand model!
One problem we had when we first started workshopping outcomes in English was knowing when to stop! We also worried about the most important outcomes that can’t be measured in conventional ways. We had this silly idea that English teaching was an art, not a form of widget-making, or an assembly line.
For example, some years ago I ran into an ex-student whom I had in a memorable poetry class around five years before. He introduced me to his girlfriend thus: “This is Mr W. He’s the one who got me interested in poetry.” Naturally, I felt good about that, and more than a bit justified in what in fact had been back then a very free-wheeling Year 9 unit which consisted in large part of people reading whatever poems they felt like reading, and I even read one I had written myself: in fact, the very poem that appears under “poetry” in the pages here. I read it with due warning. The class went totally quiet. I asked, “Hey, what have I done? Say something.” That student said, “I’ll tell you what you’ve done. For the first time in an English lesson someone has said something that actually means something.” It was quite a Dead Poets Society moment, really. We don’t get enough of them.
Such moments always disappear when we get all efficient about measuring things. My 90+ Aunt Beth, an Infants teacher/head in her day, inheriting her father’s mantle if you like, said to me not long ago, speaking of her grandchild, that it was ridiculous how they are constantly measuring and testing and standardising these days, and seem to have forgotten about teaching.
By the way, today I showed the Wuthering Heights fan what I had written about her. She was very pleased, agreed with what I had said about her, and said her reading of the novel grew as she struggled with the varying critiques she had been asked to read. Some she thought were nonsense, but all had challenged her own reading and deepened her appreciation of the novel’s depths and artistry. Let’s hope she gets a good HSC result as well, but in a way that will be a by-product.
But writing is a skill, Neil. How can one teach it if one has no skill or proven practical experience? Cheers!
How much skill is needed? I suspect too that writing is partly a set of skills and partly something rather less easy to define. There are of course those who say that creative writing can’t really be taught, even though certain related skills may be, and creativity may be either nurtured or stultified, depending on the curriculum, the teacher, and the class environment.
There are good books which can help. I have used John Marsden’s Everything I Know About Writing and Kate Grenville’s The Writing Book, both by writers who can also teach. John Marsden ran a writing class in a Year 8 class of mine some years ago; he is very good. But then not all writers can teach. Why should they? They are writers, not teachers. Patrick White seems to have hated teachers, especially English teachers whom he saw as having a malign influence on Australian culture, from Leonie Kramer (especially) on down through the schools.
I really don’t buy your argument about teaching writing, though ideally a writing teacher needs to be a competent, if not necessarily a published, writer. On the other hand, I can think of very many very successful published writers that I would hesitate to entrust a writing class to, except maybe as awful warnings, but I won’t mention Dan Brown’s name…
But hey, I have a whole website devoted to this and related issues. Go there.
Now that is a non-sequitur! If you haven’t been published, you have no writing skill… Obtuse, wrong-headed and elitist. Sure, having writing as a skill is pretty damn important, but membership in the “I’ve been published club” is immaterial.
ninglun has edited out a line: Forget remarks like that, Bruce. Personal attacks are not welcome here. But I see after having written a slightly more forceful version of this that you have made a positive comment on my comment editing policy, so here I am editing the edit… :-;
I have been published, for what it is worth, but I was as good a writing teacher before that as I was after, perhaps better before that as I was younger and more enthusiastic!